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Question of Faith
What Shouldn't a Catholic Wear for Halloween?
Ever wondered what your Halloween costume says about your values and faith? Join us e as we explore Halloween costume selection through a Catholic lens, focusing on virtues, self-respect, and intentionality. We tackle the fine line between the difference in costumes like a "traditional nurse" and a "sexy nurse," and how choices reflect personal values and self-image. Parental influence, social justice implications, and the importance of modesty in both dress and behavior are key topics as we encourage young adults to choose mindfully. Deacon Mike adds a bit about a friend's costume that tried a bit too hard and one that didn't try at all.
We also consider the dignity of the human person in the desensitizing effect of violent outfits and the philosophical distinctions between shock value and symbolic suffering.
Church Search goes to St. Elizabeth of Hungary in Cleveland.
Readings for the 31st Sunday in Ordinary Time.
On today's Question of Faith. What shouldn't a Catholic wear for Halloween? Hey everybody, this is Question of Faith. I'm Deacon Mike Hayes. I am the Director of Young Adult Ministry here in the Diocese of Cleveland.
Speaker 2:And I'm Father Damian Ferencz, the Vicar for Evangelization.
Speaker 3:And I'm Maria Wancata, Marriage and Family Ministry Specialist.
Speaker 4:I'm Mary Fugate, Executive Assistant for Parish Life.
Speaker 2:Welcome ladies. Yeah, it's good to have you both. Now you're sharing a microphone, so remember, it's like that NPR show. You know we're talking to each other, but you're on this podcast today because we need your feminine genius, your expertise, because a question came in to Deacon Mike correct, yeah.
Speaker 1:So a question came in asking specifically about well, what can? My college-age daughter wants to dress up as a sexy nurse and yeah, what do I do, you know? And it came from her mother, so I was like, well, I don't know, I mean, at college age you don't have too much control over what she wears and what she doesn't wear. For the high school daughter it might be a different story, as Maria knows all too well.
Speaker 3:Just had this conversation with my daughter.
Speaker 1:Oh, really, okay, what was that? Yeah, go.
Speaker 3:Well, her and her friend want to dress up. I think it's as gold diggers, and she showed me this like gold skirt said absolutely not. She's like well, what if I wear leggings under it and I? It's going to be cold, so I have to bundle up anyway. So I'm like I gave into that. We talk a lot about what she wears and how short her skirts are are the leggings snow pants?
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding that was a a joke, that was a joke, that's fine.
Speaker 2:Well, the question too is the distinction you make between a high school and a college-age woman. So a college-age woman is a woman, but yet if her mom knows what she's wearing for Halloween, it would seem to me that she's probably wondering what her mom thinks about it. No or yes, I don't know.
Speaker 4:I would think I would think, I would think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you know, probably looking for an opinion At least mom's weighing in on that decision in some way. You know, at least she's concerned about it enough to ask me. It's like you might want to talk to your daughter and say ask me about it, but sure go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd be interested in the conversation if it's like Mom, what do you think? Or they're just talking. This is what I'm going as, because that can tell you what's in her heart and what she's searching for in that conversation, so what?
Speaker 2:do you do Like if you're the mother or the daughter in that situation? You get yourself in here, you have a conversation and then this happens. I mean, it's a real-life question and they're searching for some answers here.
Speaker 4:So what are, what are the answers, ladies? Well, I think, um, you know, we should be striving for virtue every day, and halloween is not an exception for that. So really discerning, um, why we're going as certain characters or people for halloween, um, and what's our intention in wearing that costume, just as we asked that question, what's our intention in wearing that costume? Just as we asked that question, what's our intention in wearing this shirt or this dress to work or to a party or whatever?
Speaker 1:Yeah, or even a social justice aspect to it. Why am I wearing this brand of clothes that oppress the poor and those kinds of things? People make those kinds of decisions also.
Speaker 3:Maria, I actually, in my little notes preparing for this, I wrote the same thing Like what's stirring in your heart? Why are you choosing that? Are you looking, are you seeking attention by it? Like putting that on why? And I think in conversation, be like well, why, why do you want to dress up as that?
Speaker 2:And then what if she says well, just to be fun, it's fun.
Speaker 3:Well then I'd be like I think you need to think a little deeper about that. I mean, how you clothe yourself, your own whole person. So how you dress yourself says something about how you value yourself as a person and how you want others to value you.
Speaker 2:So there's a distinction between a nurse and a sexy nurse, right?
Speaker 2:So if someone wanted to go as a nurse, you'd be like, yeah, that's cool, Go as a nurse. I mean, Mary and her husband live over by Case Western, so there's a lot of doctors and nurses there. In fact, one of my favorite masses for the whole diocese that 8 pm on Sunday night at Holy Rosary. Sometimes the doctors and nurses come right from the clinic or from UH and so you see them a lot. But there's a difference between a nurse or a doctor and a sexy nurse.
Speaker 1:A nurse can wear scrubs, right. That's what you see nurses in most of the time these days. Not the little white mini dress, if you would. You don't see that too much anymore. The little pointed hat you don't see those. Those are pretty old school at this point.
Speaker 2:So a lot of it is about intentionality what is in your heart, what are you doing and why are you doing this sort of thing? What, what are you hoping to gain from this outfit? What kind of reactions do you want? And then to engage in those conversations with the person, maybe to get that person, in this case a young woman, to think about things in a way that she hasn't thought about them before.
Speaker 2:So one of my favorite philosophers, a woman named Hannah Arendt, and she thought the biggest sin of the 20th century was our inability to think and our thoughtlessness about things that we just kind of went through without any thought or discernment. And this is what. So she wrote a whole series of articles on Adolf Eichmann, who was part of the Eichmann trials, and it turns out this guy gassed hundreds of thousands of Jews during the Second World War, but when they brought him to trial he was a good man in terms of treating his wife well, his children lived a total ordinary life, and she said the problem here wasn't his viciousness, it was the banality of evil, that he didn't think about anything he was doing and he still did things that weren't good. So there's some sort of connection here that both of you Catholic women are saying it's important to think of what you're doing, why you're doing it, what's stirring your heart, because if you don't do that, then somehow you're being less than human in your human living.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the thing I was going to say was yeah, everybody wants to look good, you know, everyone wants to look attractive, you know. But there's kind of a fine line though. Right, you know there's a fine line between looking cute and looking something else.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I've struggled to teach this to my daughter. I'm still trying to find the words of like. There's something beautiful about dressing classy Like instead of opting for clothes that are short or revealing. Like something about being covered. A beautiful skirt and blouse like that portrays like real deep beauty of the person and she doesn't quite get it yet, but there's something. There's something that I'm still trying to teach and form her.
Speaker 2:One of my dear friends, dr Beth Rath. You know she teaches at the seminary. Both know her well. Her style is super classy. She's a very beautiful woman, very smart woman. I think the sexy or hot descriptions are more prone to describe a body part or simply the body, and not the whole human person, the soul included. And so there's a distinction to be made there, and I think that's why Catholics are cautious. People say, oh, you guys are so prude. I don't know if it's prudence in the virtuous sense that we want to make sure that the human person is never reduced to a body part or simply the human body, but that the whole human person is seen. It reminds me of that famous quote by John Paul II who said the problem with pornography is not that it shows too much, it shows too little, too little of the human person. It's reducing someone to a particular part or a look that may encourage a gaze, a look upon someone that is not virtuous.
Speaker 1:A reductive. Look right, You're only looking at that now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I think the discussion of modesty also not only has to do with our dress but how we behave, and there are ways that we can reveal intimate parts of our character with people that we shouldn't reveal them to. So the conversation covers not just dress but your whole behavior of life yeah, emotional modesty they call it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's true yeah, it's true yeah, yeah, and let's not exonerate the men in this either. You know I said this question to mary. You had some good things to say about guys. You said you know well, guys dress strangely for Halloween as well.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think there can be immodest costumes for men.
Speaker 1:Sure sexy firefighter, Right. Yeah, Just think off the top of my head, right.
Speaker 4:But then I also think even with overly violent costumes, those aren't respecting the human person. You know the human body either. So I think that's important to address.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like what's an example of an overly violent cunt.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean anything that has excessive gore or blood, or you know. You have some psycho killer costume with like wounds everywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, axe through the forehead, kind of thing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I think those can be obviously very disturbing for lots of people, especially for young children, and they're the ones out on Halloween.
Speaker 1:Especially for people who've been victimized by violence also.
Speaker 4:Right, right. But I think, even if, if someone isn't disturbed by that, I would also ask why are you not disturbed by that? You know, I think it's telling of a human character if you're not at least somewhat disturbed by it Sure yeah. Kind of blood and violence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we desensitize ourselves to things, especially violence and movies and things like that as well.
Speaker 2:Mary, we like to spar and debate, have philosophical conversations from time to time, so let's make a little distinction here. What if someone were to say, yeah, but you Catholics? I saw someone dressed up as St Sebastian, with all these arrows in him. That's gory. Or I saw someone as St Dennis, with his head in his hands walking around. That's horrific. He was beheaded. So how do you tell me that somehow you can justify your Catholic violence of the martyrs? And then you're giving us a hard time when it comes to our horror movie outfits.
Speaker 4:Yeah Well, I would say that the example of the saints, their violence, it's not for the sake of violence, it's pointing to something else. It's pointing to the glory of God and their sainthood and the trials that they went through to win the crown of martyrdom versus some psycho killer costume. I think it's for the sake of violence. It's for the sake of violence, it's for the sake of disturbing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in both cases there's sort of like a conversation piece there too, right, Like you know, when someone dresses up as a psycho killer, they'll say what the heck are you supposed to be? And then they tell you, right, and they say, well, I'm, you know so-and-so, who got, you know, hit in the head with an axe, and this is what happened in this movie, or whatever. But you know, if it's St Dennis holding his head in his hands, it gives you an opportunity to talk about that, saint then. So yeah, it's kind of both and and pointing to the end.
Speaker 2:What is the end? The end is the kingdom of God, and the way that you get there often will entail suffering, but it's a good kind of suffering, a sanctified kind of suffering, a suffering that has meaning, not just some random act of madness or deliberate act of madness by a psycho killer who is not making your life or the culture any better and we may say, oh well, that's just, we're just being fun. Well, sometimes we have to think about what is fun and what is our entertainment, and why is that entertaining to us, and is it actually making us better or making us worse?
Speaker 1:as humans yeah, interesting. So so what advice would we give to mom? You know who's asking about this. Uh, let's just say 24 year old who's? Or 22 year old, let's say who's dressing up for halloween I.
Speaker 4:I think the mom should answer.
Speaker 2:I do too, or even in how to go about it.
Speaker 3:Marie like I think well, I think it goes.
Speaker 3:I think I was saying this a bit before is is to have a, a real conversation. Uh, it's always good to um, stay calm and use calmness in your voice and, coming from a place of caring for her best interest, and, I think, keep going back to that question why so? Why that costume? Why, why are you going to do this? Why are you going to do that? And provoking her to think a little bit deeper about Halloween and whatever event or whatever she's going to is like just one, one moment in her life as well, and that, how she's choosing to dress says a lot more about her, and to keep in her mind how she wants to respect herself and her value and how she wants others to see her as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure, here's a great example of all this too. So my friend, christine Whelan, who used to write for Busted Halo for us, she's a professor, and so she said that one year she decided to get dressed up as Poison Ivy from Batman. So she had green spandex on and, like you know, the ivy leaves all over and green body paint and things like that, and she goes. Look, she goes. I looked hot and she said, and nobody came up and wanted to talk to me, and I was like, wow, really. And then I was like, well, yeah, probably really intimidated to talk to her. You know, she looked really good and she was like, yeah, but you know I was putting out the wrong signals, I think. So she said that a year later she ended up going to a Halloween party and she had broken her foot, and so she just put a sign around her neck with her crutches and said you should see the other guy.
Speaker 1:And she was just walking around hobbled on crutches and all these guys came up to her. Oh my gosh, what happens? You know everything else. Oh you poor thing. And she said she had like 15 phone numbers and she said you know, look, I'm not out looking for things, she said. But you know, she said I obviously went dressed one way one year and one way the other. She said just, you know, that just goes to show you. She said that people are more interested in what's on the inside than what's on the inside and what's on the outside.
Speaker 2:But if you're dressed as poison ivy. It makes sense that people don't want to get close to you because they don't want to get a rash.
Speaker 3:Very good point, it's true.
Speaker 1:It's true.
Speaker 2:Before I forget, maria, last spring you brought in Sam Kelly from Fierce Athlete, who wound up being a huge Springsteen fan. We went to a show together with my buddy, rich McCarthy, this summer in Philly, which was great, by the way. But Sam said something in her presentation at Lord's Shrine to those mothers and daughters that I knew but never really considered before, and that was according to the Genesis accounts, second chapter.
Speaker 2:Adam is created first. He's working in the garden, he's naming the animals, so those are all the activities that he does before Eve is created. Out of his side it means the same things that he's made up of right. So body and soul's an important element of womanhood is being seen by the other. So I even wonder, when the mom has the conversation with this daughter, like to ask about that and maybe to say I see you and I see you as this, and to let people know how you actually see them. Because if people don't feel that they're seen or understood, or if they don't think that they're beautiful or worthy, then they're going to go to other places to get people to tell them that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Adam saw Eve fully, fully, how she is the full person. And then, after the fall, I mean shame is introduced, and shame, that feeling, is a very important thing. It's our natural instinct to protect ourselves and especially as women, when we want to compare ourselves to other women, compete for attention. It's very important for us to discern when we're feeling shame as a sign of self-protection, and if we ignore that enough, we allow ourselves to be objectified. And in raising young women, it is so important to teach them to listen to that voice, that instinct of protection, and in the end it helps us to know our self-worth and that we deserve to be fully seen by a potential partner yeah, husband, future husband maybe, or just anyone in friendships that we have with other people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, To see the whole person and not just parts, Not just parts yeah which is what people do all the time right. Right.
Speaker 1:I only look at parts of people. That's where things get, and things like pornography come into play here, right, right. When you said gold digger, the first thing that came to my mind- I was like that that that's a porn thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, there's more discussion that needs to be done. And human trafficking too. Right, absolutely just using using people as objects rather than loving the most person exactly. Yeah, well, this was.
Speaker 1:This is a good conversation yeah, I wanted to touch one more thing so it's getting better I don't know if you've seen this in your neighborhood, but you know, decorations and neighborhoods have gotten like way grotesque. I mean, I've saw, I saw like little dead kids in front of you know dolls, you know, like in front of the things that mary shaker had, like no, please, no that's mary's house, yeah but you know, I I drove, I wanted to show my wife like the various levels of grotesqueness that was going on in our neighborhood and so I said, look at all these things.
Speaker 1:She said, oh my God, is that a little dead kid? And I was like, yes. I said yeah, it's like a little zombie kind of thing. But I was like yeah, that's going to be bad. And she was like, yeah, she said imagine a mother who's lost a little child looking at that as she walks past. You know is the first thing. So I'm on my walk the other day and there's one house in my neighborhood that's all trucked at. It has like ghosts hanging from the trees and all kinds of skeletons and everything else around I mean fairly tasteful. But there's a couple little like grotesque zombie things that are out as well and, um, there are three or four deer that have made our neighborhood their home now and they're all out tearing this thing apart the other day and I was like, uh, the deer even know this isn't right.
Speaker 1:You know it's fun, but I mean, what do you guys like? I mean is, is there an appropriateness to halloween decorations even at this point?
Speaker 3:We don't really celebrate Halloween in our house Because, I think, because it's become so secularized, so we have fall or autumn decorations. Is what we opt for.
Speaker 2:Go to the Vigil All Saints Day Mass.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And have some cider.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is all Hallows Eve after all, so it does come from us in some way.
Speaker 2:But you're right, it has taken on new meaning now, mary, when you were a student at CUA, did you ever go to the Dominican House of Studies for their All Saints Day vigil? No, I never did. What kind of Catholic are you?
Speaker 4:I thought you were great.
Speaker 2:It's your biggest regret, I know.
Speaker 4:I went twice. I went trick-or-treating around the embassies.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 4:We had some international candies.
Speaker 2:That sounds good, that's interesting. Yeah, did you go to the Nuncio's house?
Speaker 4:No, I did not.
Speaker 2:I've never been there either, but I hear it's nice. My second biggest regret yeah.
Speaker 1:All right. So before we do church, do we have Halloween costumes this year? What do we dress now? And Maria, you're probably opting out. You're not doing anything. Mary.
Speaker 4:No, usually I have ballet on Thursdays, but they closed the studio on Halloween, so I think we're just going to watch. It's a Great Pumpkin.
Speaker 1:Oh, very nice.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm heading out to South Bend. Notre Dame has their annual Catholic Imagination imagination conference and I'll be giving a paper on thursday afternoon and then staying for the whole conference. There's a lot of really great papers being given, so I'm excited to do that. Go down to the grotto pray can celebrate mass. I just love that campus, so that's where it's a great campus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're gonna dress up as anything. I'm going to dress up as a Catholic priest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good, yeah, I'm going to wear a collar, black clothes and black socks and shoes and a black belt.
Speaker 4:You should wear a cassock for the day.
Speaker 2:I have one. I mean, I could, I could wear it, maybe I will.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:There's all sorts of things I can do, Talking a British accent even.
Speaker 1:Last year I just put a USA hockey jersey on and put my Sully mask on, which is from Monsters Inc. And I was, you know, and I was a Ruzioni as a monster.
Speaker 1:This is the 1980 Olympics team, so that was fun. Joe Kronauer, our buddy here in the communications office, he got it right away. He goes Aruzioni is a monster, I get it. And I was like, yeah, you got it, it's Gen X humor, exactly, yeah, all right. So church search this week we're going to go to St Elizabeth of Hungary, and so that's a church I have not visited.
Speaker 2:And have you been there? I think my mother was baptized there because Marie and I are both Hungarian Right and my mom's side, the Hungarian side, is from. I think she might have been at St Catherine's. But Elizabeth of Hungary Church has an interesting history because recently Father Richard Bona, my classmate, was pastor of both St Emmerich and St Elizabeth of Hungary, but it was changed what Mary like a year ago to become a shrine. Can you fill us in on what happened In?
Speaker 4:November of 2023, it was made a shrine and the Institute of Christ the King came in and they now live there and celebrate Mass in the Old Rite. It's a very beautiful church, it's very large, but, yeah, the Institute has to do a lot of work to repair some of the old pews and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:It's right off Opportunity Corridor. So if you're heading, like on Opportunity Corridor, eastbound, you'll see it over to the right as you're getting closer to the clinic.
Speaker 4:It's in like the backyard of that dairy factory. So, yes, yeah, so if you, if you go there early in the morning, it smells like milk. It's got this like milk, almost bread kind of smell. It's actually it's not that bad.
Speaker 1:As long as it's not sour milk, you're probably fine, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I have heard that it's large, like it seats 1,100 or 1,200. So yeah, that was a big Hungarian part of town at one time and then, kind of like most suburbs, just keep moving out and out east there. So yeah. Have you been there, Maria, or no?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been there a couple times. My dad, hungarian, was baptized there and he's still part of the, I guess, old Hungarian group that's still kind of active and helping and doing things there Chicken paprikash.
Speaker 1:Yes, I made some on Sunday.
Speaker 2:You should have brought some today to share All the dumplings were gone.
Speaker 3:I ate all the chicken. I'll bring you some chicken then Okay, there you go All right.
Speaker 1:So gospel reading for this 31st Sunday in Ordinary Time. It talks about the greatest commandments. So the first commandment you shall love the Lord, your God alone, with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your heart, with all your mind, with all your strength. And the second commandment is, like it, love your neighbor as yourself. And so, actually, our faith and science conference is, this weekend, sold out Out in Canton. Sold out, yeah, waiting list. So if you still want to go, sign up and we'll get you on a waiting list, we'll probably have some overflow.
Speaker 2:What's Father Mark Ott doing?
Speaker 1:I signed something for him today, so he's responding to Brother Guy Consul Longo. So this year we're talking about creation, so the origins of the universe, as opposed to last year where we talked about the environment.
Speaker 2:I see, so we're moving it down. Very cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it'll be fun, and your buddy, dr Beth Rath, is also on the panel as well. So, yeah, two good friends. Yeah. So it'll be fun, and so I'm preaching at the Golden Mass at St Hillary that day as well. What's Golden Mass? Well, nature, you know, oh, oh.
Speaker 2:Because I know there's a red mass, there's a blue mass, I bet you Dr Rath will be wearing pearls?
Speaker 3:I'm sure she will. She almost always is, yeah very elegant, that's her thing.
Speaker 2:I went on a Flannery O'Connor pilgrimage, I don't know five, six years ago with her and a few other friends and at that time Flannery O'Connor's last. No, she has two cousins that are still alive. This is Miss Louise Florent Court and I introduced Beth and my other friends to Miss Louise at O'Connor's home church. She goes you look like a Kennedy.
Speaker 3:That's what she said, and she just wanted to give Beth a hug.
Speaker 2:It was really cute. Yeah, anyways, that's funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so anyway, gospel Readings from Mark and check it out when you get there. I'm preaching Sunday.
Speaker 2:What are you going to say?
Speaker 1:Well, election coming up. You know number one. So you know how do we love our neighbors ourself. You know I got to talk a little bit about the relationship I have with Deacon Bill, who's one of my classmates from Buffalo who we agree on nothing. I mean we're really next to nothing. We're on the opposite sides of all kinds of points of view, but he'll stay in relationship with me until we find something that we agree on, and so that's how you love your neighbor as yourself, that's good, this will be fun.
Speaker 4:Any reflections, thoughts, mary Maria. Well, my reflection was so. The scribe comes to Jesus and asks which is the first of all the commandments? And Jesus not only responds with the first, which is the first of all the commandments, and Jesus not only responds with the first, but also the second, which? Shows us that we can't get out of the second by only doing the first, but I think it also shows that Jesus always responds to our questions with abundance with more than we ask for.
Speaker 3:I also think, in everything that we've kind of been talking about today, that this also shows us the order of our relationships. So we think about our relationship with God first, and from that flows our relationships with others. And I think with just what we've been talking about today, also in that conversation with daughters is, think about what you're saying to God by what you wear and how you treat yourself too, and go to him with it.
Speaker 2:I think it's hard to love God first and alone, which is why we're constantly reminding ourselves to do so, even at Mass on Sundays, after we acknowledge our sins. Then we glory to God, we're in the highest and peace to people on earth. So it's constantly reminding ourselves that our happiness comes when we align our hearts and our will and our minds and everything we have with God, and then out of that relationship everything else will flow. But it's not easy to do. It's easy to pay lip service to it, but to actually do it's another thing.
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, and when we love others, it's a reflection of God's love for us, but only a reflection that God loves us more deeply than we can love other folks as well.
Speaker 2:Let me look at the response to the Old Psalm 2, because I love you, lord, my strength, and then when that happens, then all these other things flow out of that great love.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's good, great, all right. So you it's good, great, all right. So you know, faith in Science. This weekend Election coming up. We'll talk about that a little bit next week, since we'll be recording on Election. Day, so we'll be talking a little bit about third parties and those kinds of things.
Speaker 2:See where we go with that I have to go to Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse to vote Really yeah. So that's why I didn't vote early because I want to go to the Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse to cast my vote. I think Garris and I are going to go down together.
Speaker 1:That's nice. Yeah, I voted a little more than a week ago, I guess, so my vote's in already, which was fun there was a lot of people voting early this year, much more than last year, I would say. So, if you haven't voted, get out and vote, and if you want to wait until Election Day.
Speaker 2:Wait until Election Day, it's up to you, but vote Either way. Get a sticker Exactly. Ladies, thank you for your feminine genius. You filled this room with intelligence.
Speaker 3:Thank you for having us. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:We'll have this and a whole lot more next time here on Question of Faith. I'm out.
