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Question of Faith
Are the Orthodox and Catholics Uniting?
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Could Orthodox and Catholic Christians finally reunite after centuries of separation? As both traditions celebrated Easter on the same day this year, we explore the fascinating possibility of reconciliation between these ancient branches of Christianity.
The calendrical quirk that aligned Orthodox and Catholic Easter dates this year isn't just a mathematical curiosity – it's a powerful symbol of potential unity. While Orthodox Christians typically use the Julian calendar (placing their Easter about 13 days different from the Gregorian calendar used by Catholics), this year's synchronization recalls the shared foundation established at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. More on this at this link.
Pope Leo, whose papal crest bears the motto "In Christ we become one," is continuing dialogue started by Pope Francis regarding a permanent alignment of Easter celebrations. With the 1700th anniversary of Nicaea approaching and Pope Leo planning his first papal trip to Turkey for the commemoration, the momentum for meaningful unity seems stronger than ever. This historic moment coincides with what we're calling a "springtime in Christianity" – a period of renewal marked by increasing interest in faith traditions among younger generations seeking meaning beyond what secular culture offers.
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The moving story of the Four Chaplains – Catholic, Jewish, Reformed, and Methodist ministers who gave away their life jackets and died together praying for others as their ship sank during WWII – provides a powerful model for interfaith cooperation. Their example reminds us that unity doesn't require uniformity, but rather mutual respect and shared purpose.
Whether through local ecumenical efforts like joint Good Friday services or international dialogues between church leaders, these steps toward reunification represent healing for one of Christianity's most significant historical divisions. Could this be the moment when the Orthodox and Catholic traditions finally find their way back to communion? Join us as we explore this question and its profound implications for the future of faith.
On today's Question of Faith. Are the Orthodox and Roman Catholics going to unite? Hey everybody, this is Question of Faith. I'm Deacon Mike Hayes. I'm the Director of Young Adult Ministry here in the Diocese of.
Speaker 2:Cleveland, and I'm Father Damian Ferencz, the Vicar for Evangelization.
Speaker 1:Also the Director of Ecumenical and Interfaith Relations. Here I am in the Diocese, so it sort of brings us to our question today. Yeah, it's a good one too, and someone wrote in just about the differences between the Orthodox and the Roman Catholics celebrating Easter. Okay, that's an easy question. We can knock that out right now.
Speaker 2:And did that happen this year.
Speaker 1:This year it was on the same day. It was okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it often wasn't, because usually the Orthodox were a week later or a couple weeks later or something. Yeah, it's about 13 days in the difference between the Julian calendar and the Gregorian calendar. So when? So 325 Nicaea, we agreed that Easter would fall after the I never remember exactly this thing here, so I'm just going to look it up in my note here. Following the first full moon after the vernal equinox. So that's when we take—the difference is that we use two different calendars, so their vernal equinox is different from our vernal equinox.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so the Julian calendar is about 13 days in difference, so the Orthodox will celebrate it 13 days away all the time.
Speaker 2:But this year it was different. Was that because Pope Francis made a change or what happened?
Speaker 1:No, it's just a coincidence this year that the days match up because the equinox falls on different times. When Easter is really late, it's because the equinox is really late, and so then it just kind of moves on down the road. So we'll put a link to the article here that explains all of this.
Speaker 2:So is it in the works? Yeah, that's the question. So, pope.
Speaker 1:Francis met with the patriarch years ago and said hey, why are we doing this? Why are we still following two different calendars? You know, easter can be a source of unity for us. And so they started to talk about well, yeah, maybe we should celebrate Easter on the same time as a show of our unity as Christians.
Speaker 2:And so now.
Speaker 1:Pope Leo is kind of picking that up and you know he just met this week with various religions and the Orthodox being one of them, and that was brought up, you know as well. Maybe we should still talk about this. Can we unite around these common, this common data for Easter?
Speaker 2:Well, it certainly seems and we've talked about this on our last few shows that Pope Leo is a unifier. I mean, it's even written in his crest, and it's in Christ that we become one. Written in his crest and it's in Christ that we become one. So perhaps now is the time to make the move, and how wonderful that would be. I mean, it really does feel like a springtime in Christianity right now. I was on retreat last week at the TOR Sisters in Toronto, ohio. They rent out hermitages, and so I rented one out it looked like a big shed yeah you put a picture of it somewhere On Insta.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the Amish built these things, and so it just stayed in one of these sheds for it's not a shed, it's a hermitage for five days, turned off the phone. It was glorious.
Speaker 1:I have this picture of you like Oscar the.
Speaker 2:Grouch coming up.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it's actually a really nice prayer space because you had a bed.
Speaker 2:It did look lovely, you're right, a full bath, yeah Well, a shower, everything you need, dusk and all that. But I had mass with the sisters a few times and one of the times I was able to preach about the springtime that's happening in the church right now because of the new pope in our diocese, the eight new priests, that Gen Z is now returning to the church, even though the women aren't coming as quickly as we'd like. We've talked about that on the show too, but the meaninglessness that the world offers is making the church so much more attractive. The world offers is making the church so much more attractive, and perhaps this time of renewal and springtime in the church, it's that the time is right for the Orthodox and the Catholics to somehow come together too.
Speaker 1:It's the 1700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, correct, so that will be something to see, and that should be Pope Leo's first papal trip to Turkey. That's at least on the—it's in the books right now. So, he's definitely going to that. Whether he goes somewhere before then would be the question.
Speaker 2:I've always wanted to go to Turkey.
Speaker 1:Me too.
Speaker 2:To Istanbul, constantinople, to see Hagia Sophia. That would be great yeah that would be fun But— to see Hagia.
Speaker 1:Sophia, that would be great. Yeah, that would be fun. But yeah, so I had a couple meetings this week actually with a couple of folks just talking about, like, well, what work in this area are you doing already? You know that I could help promote as the ecumenical director. And they said well, you know, we try to unite around some common holidays if we can. So we try to do something around Thanksgiving every year.
Speaker 2:That's a good common holiday. We all kind of celebrate secular in many ways right. Is this with all different religions, or is this just with orthodox or uh no?
Speaker 1:this was. This was with catholics so what? What are you doing with other faiths?
Speaker 2:oh, I see, and then?
Speaker 1:I see you know, and then we go around now. Now we do have a, a council of religions, if you would, that meets. And they do have a Council of Religions, if you would, that meets. And they do a little symposia every year a couple times a year. Smaller groups, so that's coming up on June 1st actually at 3 o'clock out at 2.30, I should say at.
Speaker 1:John Carroll University this year. So that's open to the public, so feel free to come on. We're talking about the difference between spirituality and religion as a topic, so that'll be fun and we've talked about that too. We've talked about what are ways that we can kind of get together and all kind of. Now that's religion, so that's a little more interfaith than ecumenism. The meetings I've had this week were really more about ecumenism. So I met with Father Lucas out of Jesu this week, who's a great guy. He's with them Sunday night. One of the things that he said was that they gather the Christian communities out there, all gather on Good Friday, oh yeah, and they celebrate a common Good Friday service each year.
Speaker 2:They do that at your home parish too, in Rocky River, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:I think COVID ended it.
Speaker 2:They haven't done it, oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm going to try to bring it back this coming year.
Speaker 2:Because I was an intern there and I remember that they did that there was the Stations of the Cross, like at noon, and then we would have our liturgy at 3 in Rocky River.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, this year we did like a walking Stations and one of the Stations we did stop at is in front of, I think, the Methodist church, and so that's sort of a shining unity for us. Yeah, but he said that they do a common Good Friday service on the seven last words and we just let people you know seven different denominations all speak, others preside, other folks will preside as well, so it's a nice show of unity. So he said he gets to preach at that every year. So that's one way to do this.
Speaker 2:Well, I know in our diocese, particularly because we are in northeast Ohio, meeting with different Catholic rites is very common. So with the Ruthenian Catholics, ukrainian Catholics, as I mentioned, on Good Friday or Holy Thursday night, holy Night Hike, there were 21, 22 Maronite Catholics that came with us.
Speaker 2:you know from the mostly Lebanese. Some were born in Lebanon, some were born here, but I absolutely love that and I know the Holy Father met with bishops from the Eastern Rite bishops maybe in his first few days of being Pope and now that he's, you know, pursuing days of being. Pope, and now that he's, you know, pursuing, and it's not like he's the first to do it.
Speaker 2:Obviously, Pope Francis did it, and Benedict and John Paul too. But you know, big ships turn slowly, as they say. So we'll see what happens, but maybe now the time is right. That's why, going back to the springtime, it just seems like things are really starting to click right now that we've been hoping for for a long time. So it's very exciting.
Speaker 1:I would expect something big to be announced at this anniversary of Nicaea. I think that that would be a good time to do something like this. Do you know what date that is exactly? I know it's the.
Speaker 2:It's the. What did you say? 1700 years? Yeah, I don't know the date. Yeah, look it up while we talk here. But I know that Dr Andy Starin over at the seminary had asked if we could do something to celebrate this date the charge of the third year of Eucharistic revival, the bishop's new pastoral letter and, being in the Jubilee Year of Hope. We probably would have done something formally, but maybe out of your office you can do something, maybe I don't know how big is the Orthodox community here in Cleveland Maybe something could be done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. May 20th is the actual commemoration.
Speaker 2:So it was already okay.
Speaker 1:But you know, they talked about celebrating something this summer, maybe around Pentecost, was one idea. I know Dr Starin was talking about that with me. He said you know, we should probably do something around Pentecost. That would be a good idea.
Speaker 1:So we've been talking but nothing's come of it just as of yet. But if it does, we'll let you know. Yeah, it'd be cool, yeah, it would be fun to do that, I think, and we should do more of those kinds of things. You know, I know we have an Eastern Churches Dialogue as well that's out of John Carroll, and we've talked about maybe doing like a little tour of all the of all the Eastern churches in Parma and just, you know, have everybody, have their place open, like sort of like a little open house, and maybe have some food and maybe, you know, make it into like a little festival of faith kind of thing. So that's, that's probably in the works longterm.
Speaker 2:Well, on state road there there is the Ukrainian Cathedral for the Eparchy of Parma Ukrainian church.
Speaker 1:I was just there yesterday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we used to get parochy there when we were kids and then if you go south of there, there is an Orthodox church on the east side of State Road Right, and a few of my friends had parties back in their party center back there.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, yeah, that's across the street from the Jess the Jesuit retreat center, right, no, south, oh south. I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:There's a. I know what you mean now, yes, yeah, there's a huge, beautiful mosaic on the front. I remember as a kid like looking at that and asking my parents like, can we go to church there? They're like, well, no, but they're with us and they're trying to explain to me in my young age how that all worked out. You know different rights and for the, for the orthodox, we allow them to take our sacraments and there's we consider valid, but we don't take them because we're not in communion. You know so, but it would be certainly nice to have communion once again with our Orthodox brothers and sisters, and that's bigger fish to fry than I'm able to do, but I can certainly pray for it. Exactly, yeah.
Speaker 1:This week was Memorial Day. It was on Monday and so I preached at Mass. At the 9 o'clock Mass that we have for Memorial Day in our parish, one of the things that I talked about were chaplains you know combat chaplains Great movie, by the way, that Paul's Productions just put out, fighting Spirit.
Speaker 1:It's only about 73 minutes long but it talks about combat chaplains and how they've had to serve the needs of everybody. They don't just serve their own denomination, they make sure that their own denomination has services and that people have access to those services. But they end up and certainly in a combat place right and they end up serving the needs of everybody, pulling all kinds of people off the line into safety, and they go out there without weapons. It was just a great movie. If you get a chance, really look at it. But one of the stories in there actually I have a family relation with my wife's family. Look at it. But one of the stories in there actually I have a family relation with my wife's family.
Speaker 1:Her uncle, mike, her great uncle, was in World War II and so there were these four chaplains on the Dorchester, which was sort of like a transport ship that the war administration put together, and they were heading out into the North Atlantic to go to Greenland and then, off the coast of Newfoundland, a German torpedo hit them and the Dorchester starts to sink and the four chaplains organized the disembarkment of people onto the lifeboats, and so they made it very orderly and they kept everything calm and they started bringing them all onto the lifeboats.
Speaker 1:Well, eventually they run out of space in the lifeboats. They just start handing people life jackets and have to get into the water and most of those people froze to death, honestly. But they started handing out all the life jackets and then they run out of life jackets and the four guys took their four life jackets off and gave them to somebody else and they linked arms, they said prayers, they sang hymns and they sank into the water and died. So four guys Catholic, a Jew, a Reformed minister and a Methodist minister Talk about the gift of self.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:But talk about also. You know that they could have, could have been in a place where, well, my religion is better than yours, and they didn't.
Speaker 1:They united amongst everybody in that boat and saved the lives of many, many people that would not have made it if it weren't for them. That's cool, certainly the four who they gave their life jackets to in particular. But they said the last words that were heard. They said they heard prayers in Latin, prayers in Hebrew, and then the two guys who were speaking in English they said the last thing that they heard was the guy said please, lord, we pray today for the people who are on those lifeboats that they will be brought to safety. So they don't even think about their own self at that point. They just are still focused on the people that they served as chaplains. So they're kind of a nice model for ecumenical and interfaith relations, certainly, but also just a nice model of heroism that we could lean into on Memorial Day in particular.
Speaker 2:What was that film that was out a few years ago where Teresa Palmer was a really pretty nurse in there and there was a chaplain who never carried any weapons but he rescued all these guys off the field and brought them down? Was it Hacksaw Ridge or something Might?
Speaker 1:have been.
Speaker 2:I love that film. It was a great, great film about another chaplain just self-sacrificing Is that Father Kapoor?
Speaker 1:Is that who you're using? He was in Korea. I don't know who this guy was. Yeah, he's the other one that a lot of people—the other military chaplain that Catholics point to. They found him because he was captured by the Koreans and by the—I shouldn't say that he was captured by the Chinese during the Korean War and he brought such hope to the prisoners that they eventually said We've got to kill this guy because he's giving hope to the prisoners that they eventually said we've got to kill this guy because he's giving hope to the prisoners.
Speaker 1:And so they killed him and they hid his body for years and they finally recovered it and they brought it back and there was this big, huge funeral for him in the Diocese of Wichita. I guess he was from Kansas and he's on his way to sainthood. I think he's venerable already. I think I have a pair of socks that have his face on it.
Speaker 2:From Socks, religious, okay. Teresa Palmer starred in the war movie Hacksaw Ridge 2016, which is a biographical drama based on the true story of Desmond Doss, a World War II medic who refused to carry a weapon. So he wasn't a chaplain. But he wouldn't carry a weapon because he didn't believe in violence. So he, but he still Conscientious objector kind of person. Yeah, but he didn't fight, but he was in war and but rescuing people is cool, you should see it.
Speaker 1:If you haven't seen it, I will take a look at that. I have not seen that movie yet. Yeah, always good Okay. Do you eat a hot dog on Memorial Day? You always encourage me to eat a hot dog on Memorial Day. No.
Speaker 2:What did I have yesterday? I went over to Father Mark Riley's place, we brought out the grill.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:It had propane in it, which a People bring out the grill for the first time. They forget to replace the poke print, so we grilled some salmon and some kielbasa, oh very nice. Yesterday was the 26th. It was the ninth anniversary of my dad's death, so I went to the cemetery for a little bit. I cleaned off his grave with scissors, but there was a guy behind me I was so envious he brought his weed whacker to the cemetery. I'm like good for you, I just don't like my car smelling like two-cycle gas, anyway.
Speaker 2:And then I went to visit a priest friend, and then I went to Riley's place and we grilled out, but no, no hot dogs for me. I think I recently watched a video on Instagram and reminded myself of what hot dogs are made of.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so I'm just avoiding them Two things you don't want to see made laws, and sausages.
Speaker 2:There you go, but I'll eat brats oh okay, well, there you go I mean kielbasa is kind of like a hot dog, but not really, because the hot dog's just scraps of everything else. That doesn't Usually. Yeah, yeah, exactly, but unless they're all beef.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did have an all-beef hot dog. Well then you shouldn't feel too bad At Bearden's in Rocky River. Have you been there? You would like this place. I think it looks like an old 50s kind of diner place and they have good burgers, good milkshakes, good hot dogs. So Mary and I went there because I wanted a hot dog for Memorial.
Speaker 2:Day I've seen the healthier option of hot dogs are the carrots. You take a carrot and then you make it in the shape of a hot dog and then you cook it.
Speaker 1:I saw it on Instagram you know, carrot should not be hot dogs, nor cake, in my opinion. I like carrot cake.
Speaker 2:Do you like carrot cake? My wife likes carrot cake. I don't eat a lot of cake, but I like carrot cake. I don't eat a lot of cake either.
Speaker 1:I think I like the frosting, but I like carrot cake. I don't eat a lot of carrot cake either. I think I like the frosting. Yeah, yeah, that might be right Cream cheese frosting. Oh, speaking of, sweets.
Speaker 2:The deliveries were made to all the Jubilee parishes and shrines. So it's up to those parishes and shrines as to when they will distribute or have a celebration where this ice cream will be served. But look for it, there'll be Jubilee indulgencegence and Pilgrim Tracks.
Speaker 1:Very nice, yeah, we'll be out in Parma in July. For what? For?
Speaker 2:the Pilgrims. Oh, it's July 19th. July 19th, it's not Parma, it's Parma Heights, parma Heights, yeah, yeah. So 4 pm Mass, st John Bosco, and then process down. Pray in the rosary to Incarnate Word. There'll be live music there. I got the Tom Evan Chuck Trio to play. I met with the nuns last week and I think the Knights of Columbus from St Peter the Apostle will be providing food, so it should be pretty fun.
Speaker 1:That'll be fun. Speaking of fun and speaking of St John, bosco and Parma softball starts this week. Wonderful Bosco and Parma softball starts this week. So, uh, wonderful, yeah. So this Sunday we'll be out there, starting around noon, and feel free to come on out and uh and watch. We got a. We got an extra team this year, so that's good. So more people 171.
Speaker 2:How many?
Speaker 1:teams playing softball. Uh, nine, nine, yes, correct, cool. So yeah, it'll be fun. I had to go and try to start to get an umpire shape this week.
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Speaker 1:Ha ha. I was out at the Jesuit Retreat Center this weekend directing three people on retreat, which was fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, was it a formal retreat.
Speaker 1:It was a three-day. They had some folks there that were on a five-day, I think some folks there were finishing up a seven-day. So it's sort of that season for them where they have people coming in for various lengths of time, I see. But this was a three-day retreat and so yeah, so I directed three people. It was fun.
Speaker 2:They just meet once a day with you. Is that it Correct? Do scripture passages Correct?
Speaker 1:Do you?
Speaker 2:assign them, or does somebody assign them and then they just come in and chat with you or what it depends on the person.
Speaker 1:Okay, sometimes I give them stuff to read, sometimes they come with stuff themselves and they want to concentrate on that and sometimes come with particular needs, particular things. So you don't mess with the creature, as God would tell us right. So we accept them where they are, but then we give them some direction along the way as well. So usually I start everybody out with Psalm 139.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's pretty typical for.
Speaker 1:Ignatian retreats yeah, and then take it from there.
Speaker 2:I had one of the sisters one of the TOR sisters who's a trained spiritual director. I met with her a couple times during my retreat. It was very helpful.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Very good so. I mean there's all sorts of different retreats you can do. You can do just silence. You can do a directed retreat. You could do a conference-centered retreat. There's all sorts of things. I think the most important thing to do on retreat is to turn off your phone completely for the whole time you're there.
Speaker 1:Every single one of my directives said that this week.
Speaker 2:Because you're free of all sorts of distractions. There's no work, there's no email. I left the number of the retreat house, the hospitality coordinator, with the guys across the street like Bishop and Father Don and Father Joe. I said, if you need me in case of an emergency, call this, otherwise my phone's off. That frees you up to be at the Lord's beck and call because he wants to enter in and he can only enter in when there's silence and that's where he speaks. So turn off your phone. Go on a retreat. Turn off your phone. Go on a retreat, turn off your phone. Um, it's, and it's really easy to make every excuse of why you need to leave your phone on. But if you could, you could, you could risk it to turn it off. Whoo, great things happen.
Speaker 1:Indeed, yeah, I know, even this weekend, while I was directing people, I turned my phone off and I went for a nice walk out in the grounds there, which were great, and I came back in, I just took some time and really just relaxed, which I haven't been able to do for a while. It's liberating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was really liberating it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:God did speak to me in many ways, so it was fun. That's good. And then so, by the way, we could use this as our church search the chapel they have upstairs at the Jesuit retreat. That's really lovely. Oh, yeah, so it's, you know, with glass looking out onto the.
Speaker 2:Stone walls with candles on the side. Correct, yeah. Glass looking out to nature? Yep, francine uses that. Does it have a name?
Speaker 1:It was dedicated to Father Howard Gray, who was director of mission at Georgetown for a number of years and at John Carroll.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember him.
Speaker 1:That was how I got to know him. Just a great guy.
Speaker 2:But it doesn't have like a saint name or anything. I don't know, not yet.
Speaker 1:Okay, they're in the process now of both chapels. I think they're looking for donors to kind of rehab both of the chapels a little bit.
Speaker 2:Well then, there's that third chapel, that little, and I didn't know it was a Eucharistic chapel until I noticed, oh, there is a votive light there, but the tabernacle is kind of hidden into the wall. I like hearing confessions in there when I'm on retreat, yeah it's great, it's a lovely place.
Speaker 1:So the Jesuit Retreat Center in Parma check it out. It just kind of pops up in the middle of State Road there, which is kind of amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the property goes deep. Yes, and there's a cemetery for Jesuits on the back end of the property. Stations of the Cross Deer will come up and eat out of your hand, although I don't know if that's a good idea. Yeah, it's a nice little oasis. The apartment. It's been there forever. It used to be what the Novitiate House.
Speaker 1:Correct. It was the Jesuit Novitiate, pedro, maybe what the novitiate house, or the correct, it was the jesuit novitiate. Uh, pedro rupe actually did study there for a very brief time, and so they kind of hold that up as that. Uh, that he was on the property there as well, um, but yeah, so, um, yeah, the jesuit retreat center is just great. Our buddy bill hobbs out there, runs a good show, so I go there often, often. That's cool, all right. So we're Ascension of the Lord Oof, all ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some dioceses still have it on Thursday because that's 40 days out, but most dioceses in the United States still celebrate it on Sunday, so that everybody can celebrate it, correct?
Speaker 1:And so the first reading is for the start of the Acts of the Apostles, which is always great. We hear a little bit about the ascension there. We hear a little bit more about it in the Gospel as well. I have been asked—it's the 10th anniversary of Laudato Si' this week also, and so our Care for the Common Earth has asked me. The committee at St Chris has asked me to preach on that this weekend. So Jesus ascended to heaven, but he left us here on earth, so our job is to care for the earth will be sort of the theme that I'm going to be working on. I haven't written it.
Speaker 2:yet I have mass. I have a 5 pm somewhere and then 8 pm, I think, at Holy Rosary on Sunday. So it's weird not to have a vigil for morning masses. So I have not started my homily prep yet. What I do know about the Ascension is that in order for every human to have access to Jesus, he needs to ascend to the Father so that he's not limited by time and space.
Speaker 2:Right got it, and that's a pretty important feature of our resurrected Lord is that he has to complete the journey to the Father so that we can follow him up there and his humanity now, for the first time, enters into heaven so that we can all follow him there. I think the preface says something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, so that'd be cool.
Speaker 2:Awesome Solemnity of the Ascension of the Lord this weekend at your local parish, all right, Well, we got a surprise for you next week and a recurring guest, but a little surprise, so something to look forward to, yeah, something to look forward to, yeah, and one of our favorite guests will be on his way back here.
Speaker 1:True, we just gave away that it's a man, not a woman. That's what we do. We give away things Little Easter eggs, right, I suppose? All right, so check out the Ascension of the Lord this week at your local parish. We'll have this and a lot more next time you're on Question of Faith.
